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MB14DAD	SCVA 16's	Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 210 (01/22/09 11:02 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Qualifier #1 Pools up. http://scvavolleyball.org/documents/16QDay1_000.pdf
MB14DAD	Seeding	#1	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 210 (01/22/09 11:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Not too sure seeding is right, but as long as you play well, seeding may have little effect. Except if your in a pool with a team that is as capable as yours.
WhatsUpinSoCal	2009 SCVA 16s. Whats up in Q1?	#2	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 70 (01/23/09 12:54 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The ever fun qualifier 1 in SCVA. Seedings are always off, but as Robert at SCVA always says, if you are better than where you were put, PROVE IT. The system will work itself out and it always does. Outlook: This years 16s is very top heavy, much like last year in the 15s Division. When you look at the initial seedings some things may look off, but as the final at Fiesta Classic proved, they aren't. Long Beach is the defending SCVA champs from this class. They are the #1. 951 Elite, the fiesta classic winners are a perrenial 16s power and have a team made up primarily from a core of their 16-2 team a year ago that was a division 1-2 team. Teams too low? Wave at #7 - This is a Top 4 team. Has been for a long time and will still be. Impact at # 25 - This will be a solid division 1 team all year. Sports Shack at #15 - This team is looking strong with a bunch of new players with high level experience. Teams too High!!! SDVBC #6 Cal Juniors #11 Sunshine #4 Toughest Pools: By toughest I mean most competitive... Pool 13: SMBC, Long Beach 16-2, Mavericks 16-Gene, Elite 16-Elite will be a tough and competitive pool top to bottom. Pool 14: Watch out for that Viper team and 951 2 teams are always solid. Predictions 1st Place teams: Long Beach Miz, 951, Club West, Sunshine, Laguna, Santa Barbara, Wave, Impact, TCA, Coast, Rancho Valley, OCVBC, SMBC, Temecula, Shack, Golden West 2nds: Kern River, CW Pasadena, Laguna Carmen, South Bay, SCVC, SG ELITE, Jamba, SDVBC, Surf City, Wave Jeff, Club West 2, REEF, Long Beach RB, Epic, Sunshine SB, SVVC Good luck to all teams this weekend and all season. Have fun with the prognostications Last Edited By: WhatsUpinSoCal 01/23/09 1:15 AM. Edited 1 times.
Barney		#3	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 71 (01/23/09 11:48 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Strangest seed I see is Sinjin Smith's new club (HAX) being put in the bronze as the #142 overall seed. Looking at their roster, it looks like a Low Division 1/High Division 2-type team. Given the way the qualifier flow chart works, even if this team wins every match in the qualifiers, the best they can start the season is in Division 5. Sounds like poor communication between the club and SCVA to get this team placed correctly.
22Dad	just for the fun of it...	#4	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 173 (01/23/09 2:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	and to hopefully create some banter with this thread... Sunshine VB Rags @ #4- I completely disagree with "Whatsup" on this one. This is mostly a brand new team that has added several big time players, especially at setter (HWs Dani Salka), outside (Emma White & others) and libero (MC starter Zbonjnewicz). If their libero stays healthy, I would expect them to compete for a JO invite 951 Elite- anxious to see how this club does. In the 15s, their club didn't make very much noise but now they have four teams in top 100 with their 1s @ #2. SDVBC- another club I am curious about. Little noise last year but now they have three teams in top 48 with 3s at #48, 2s at #21, and their 1s at #8... Coast- with proven club director I expect this team to be a force at some point this season Cal Jrs at #11...is Jane Croson on their roster now? Sports Shack @ #15...should be much higher!!!! They have some new players who add great experience and firepower and a proven coach. Another team I would expect to eventually compete for an open JO invite. Mavericks- what happened to that super athletic group they had in 15s that went to JOs in open? Looks like their 16-1s is seeded all the way down at #45. Impact- agree with "Whatsup" on this...a scrappy, big group that always plays with lots of heart. They are seeded to low right now and they will prove to be very competitive throughout the season. SCVC- it will be interesting to see how they do without Emma White Kern River Elite- seems like they should be seeded a bit higher than #32 900sqft VBC- I am anxious to see how this club does. I love what I see on their website and it looks like their attention to detail is a major strength. Legacy 16s @ #69- um...this is Walt Ker's new club, one of the game's preeminent teachers and most passionate supporters...nothing else needs to be said. Only time will tell here.
WhatsUpinSoCal	22 Dad...	#5	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 70 (01/23/09 3:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Mavericks 15's that finished #2 in SCVA in 2008 is now at Club West. Ariana Williams is listed on the 18-1 and Rachel Herrock is with Aaron on the 17-1. The remaining bulk is on the 16-1, the reason for that #3 seed to start the season. At MLK, I did not get to see them at Fiesta, but I hear they are very good. Jane Croson is not on Cal Juniors 16s, it is just a big mis seed. That Kern River team will be interesting to watch. They have decent size and year under their belt of playing in 16s. How will their ball control hold up? Is your daughter now at Legacy with Walt? Last Edited By: WhatsUpinSoCal 01/23/09 3:07 PM. Edited 1 times.
22Dad	Club West!!!	#6	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 173 (01/23/09 3:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	do they still have many of their girls from last year's 15s? The two outsides from last year were outstanding along with setter and many others. If this is a combination of the best from that Club West 15s team and Aarons' Mavericks 15s...then watch out!!! This team is gonna be super super athletic and tough. Whatsup...you are the man when it comes to the inside information. Thanks!
WhatsUpinSoCal		#7	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 70 (01/24/09 12:48 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	They should be pretty formidable. I am not the man, Tawa is the man...I'm simply... Whats up in So Cal.
volleyball	16 Q1 results	#8	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 94 (01/24/09 5:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	At Artesia High pool G5. RESULTS: Laguna 1 6/0, SCVC 2 4/2, good final match between them. BKFD Jamba 3 2/4, So Cal elite 4 0/6. Please post results.
MB14DAD	Pool 16	#9	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 210 (01/24/09 5:55 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Goldenwest 16 Asics - 3-0, 6-1, 1.347 SVVC 16-Kelli M - 2-1, 5-4 900 sqft VBC - 1-2, 3-4 SDVBC 16-Keri - 0-3, 1-6
volleyball	Re seeding for Q3?	#10	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 94 (01/24/09 6:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Question: Will all 3 results be used: MATCHES, GAMES, and POINT % for re seeding? I think one year point percentage was not used to elevate teams? Example: two teams finish 2nd, both 2/1 matches, games will decide tie-breaker? if games won/lost are the same, will point % be used? In this case, all 2nds with 5/2 or 4/2 game records move ahead of all 4/3 game records for Q3 seeding. Also all teams with a 4/2 games won/lost record will be decided on point percentages for seed order. Is this correct? Are the seeding rules defined somewhere? THANKS if anyone can help with answer.
volleyball	teams avoidinq 16 Q2	#11	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 94 (01/24/09 8:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	POOL 2, seeded #3 CLUB WEST PASADENA DEF. #2 T-STREET to finish 2nd, Also went 3 with 951. POOL 8, seeded #2 IMPACT DEF, SDVBC #1 who finished 2nd. POOL 12, seeded #4 SANTA BARBARA 2 DEF. #2 SDVBC 2 and #3 REEF to finish 2nd behind OCVBC. POOL 13, seeded #3 MAVERICKS DEF. #2 MIZUNO 2 to finish 2nd behind SMBC.
MB14DAD	Pool 9	#12	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 210 (01/24/09 11:55 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	TCA 16-1 - 3-0, 6-1 Surf City 16-1 - 2-1 Others - Miz LB Mizuno - 3-0, 6-0 SMBC Trevor - 3-0, 6-1
vblovers	Anyone see Surf City 16-1 or TCA 16-1 play	#13	[-]
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MB14DAD	TCA/Surf City	#14	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 210 (01/25/09 8:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Went three. 2nd game was 25-23 Surf City. Tiebreaker was close at 9 all I think, then TCA pulled away. Surf City will be in Div 1 this year, maybe the 1st mandatory, but for sure by the 2nd Mandatory.
Baller	All I keep hearing is TCA 16-1 is loaded this yr w/ lots of power..	#15	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 53 (01/25/09 8:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	MB14DAD wrote: Went three. 2nd game was 25-23 Surf City. Tiebreaker was close at 9 all I think, then TCA pulled away. Surf City will be in Div 1 this year, maybe the 1st mandatory, but for sure by the 2nd Mandatory.
SoCalVBFan	A few more results	#16	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 14 (01/26/09 3:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Pool 1 1...Mizuno Long Beach 16 Mizuno 2...Kern River 16 Elite Pool 7 1...Wave 16 Katie Spalding 2...Club Jamba 16 Parker Pool 10 1...Coast 16 Jackie Any more results???
Barney		#17	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 71 (01/26/09 4:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Barney wrote: Strangest seed I see is Sinjin Smith's new club (HAX) being put in the bronze as the #142 overall seed. Looking at their roster, it looks like a Low Division 1/High Division 2-type team. Given the way the qualifier flow chart works, even if this team wins every match in the qualifiers, the best they can start the season is in Division 5. Sounds like poor communication between the club and SCVA to get this team placed correctly. Looked at the results and it validates the issue I raised above. Hax went 6-0 with a 2.78 point ratio and beat the #2 seed in their pool 25-2 in the second game. Does anybody know whether SCVA can make adjustments in the Qualifier tournament to reseed a team in the middle of the process to address a problem like this? Otherwise, the best this team can do even if (when) they win all their games in the qualifiers is start in division 5. It'll take them most of the Mandatories to get where they belong. I'm not affiliated with this club, but know some of the girls on the team and feel for them. SCVA typically does a great job at the seeding so I'm not intending to rag on them here.
volleyball	only 4 unknowns	#18	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 94 (01/26/09 4:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	16G only unknown pool finishes: pools 3,4,11, and 14???? All others mentioned or finished 1-2 as seeded. Anyone know W/L and % points on these 4? Anyone sure that point % will be used as tie-breaker for Q3 seeding?
volleyball	who gets bounced?	#19	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 94 (01/26/09 4:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Barney, who gets bounced????????? Wont happen.
lbc	blame the club director not SCVA.	#20	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 79 (01/26/09 7:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Barney wrote: Barney wrote: Strangest seed I see is Sinjin Smith's new club (HAX) being put in the bronze as the #142 overall seed. Looking at their roster, it looks like a Low Division 1/High Division 2-type team. Given the way the qualifier flow chart works, even if this team wins every match in the qualifiers, the best they can start the season is in Division 5. Sounds like poor communication between the club and SCVA to get this team placed correctly. Looked at the results and it validates the issue I raised above. Hax went 6-0 with a 2.78 point ratio and beat the #2 seed in their pool 25-2 in the second game. Does anybody know whether SCVA can make adjustments in the Qualifier tournament to reseed a team in the middle of the process to address a problem like this? Otherwise, the best this team can do even if (when) they win all their games in the qualifiers is start in division 5. It'll take them most of the Mandatories to get where they belong. I'm not affiliated with this club, but know some of the girls on the team and feel for them. SCVA typically does a great job at the seeding so I'm not intending to rag on them here. Infact whats wrong with winning and moving up. I rather moving up every week than backward.

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