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cardinalvb |
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I should clarify that we did meet with the coaches at "Meet the team" night to cover basics, but after that initial meeting there was never a meeting
with parents only. They met with girls after each tournament to review the tournament and once had a "one on one" meeting after a not so great
qualifier showing. Not so sure that was a positive experience for most girls.
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relativeyoungster |
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VbBEAR wrote: Here is a question for you: If you're coaching an older age group, shouldn't you be teaching the girls how to interact with adults, how to ask
questions, etc?
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VbBEAR |
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...Nope, two separate animals and should be two separate conversations, agendas, and purposes. There are three unique groups associated with any volleyball team: the coaches, the players and the parents. All have a common purpose, the development of young athletes in the sport of volleyball, BUT all have different responsibilities. To ignore or, (if you want a "positive-spin") not energize the parent group (a.k.a. the bill payers) by opening and keeping open a communication channel between the coaches and parents is a significant error in coaching judgment and has a direct link to parental discontent during the season. Let me give you an example. Had a couple of parents that were just beside themselves due to playing time of their player. Met with the parents group as a whole and went through different line-ups, player roles, substitutions, associated JRVB rules (who can subs for whom, how many subs allowed, etc.), competition and the basics of the offense we were running (6-2, two short 17U setters)....basically just coaching insight and thought process. Questions I got and answered, "Well why can't Mary just stay on the front row and just not rotate?"; "Why can't our other middle on the back row just come up and help block?"; "Why can't the libero set in that one rotation?"; on and on and on...Once explained, the parents were OK, believe it or not they are rationale people, and the frustration level decreased for the remaider of the season to the point that we had monthly meeting to just talk volleyball. For any coach to not meet with the parents, answer questions and help educate the parents so they can enjoy and understand the game AND in the process defuse potential problems several times during the year is a huge error in club/coaching judgement. Also note, there are some very sharp parents in JRVB whether through playing themselves, coaching themselves, having an older child already in JRVB, etc. Personally, I have a pretty good background in VB but have no problem with my player's coach saying "we did this" as long as the next statement is "and here's why." I don't need to agree with the "why", just an indication that there was a purpose, "method to his madness if you will"... Where most coaches fail is not being able or willing to communciate that second statement when asked.
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05/12/08 10:01 AM.
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expertidiot |
great post VbBear | ||
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Great post, VbBear... well said. |
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cardinalvb |
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Wow! That would be awesome if all coaches did. that. I know for me, that I learn more and more each year about volleyball, but it's usually asking dd
about why certain things are done or who is supposed to be covering a certain ball, etc. I'm sure not all parents really ask the nitty gritty questions or
maybe even understand but if coaches took the time to explain this to parents, it would make a whole lot of sense to some, whether they agreed with it or not
but then you see where the coach is coming from and what she is trying to do and what her goals might be for the team and individual players. I would love
this just even from an educational standpoint in trying to learn more about the game but having coaches involved with parents would sure end a lot of second
guessing and b*tching from the stands in my opinion.
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ignoratevb |
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imma going ask the dumb questions here.
why do da parents and coaches ever have anything to talk about? is it the coaches team? did she/he (the coach) recruit the players and make promises to the parents about training players for a specific position? did the coach recruit the players for a certain team and state that if a player tries out and is placed on a team this team is expected to perform at a certain level? (ie:qualify at open) did he/she as coach even have any say or vote about who get placed on the team in the first place? why is the coaches job then not to just simply teach volleyball? the level of coaching, team direction, playing time requirements are all defined by the club director not by the parents and certainly not by the coach. if the answer is yes to any of those questions then i say yes the coach should have meetings about this, that and every other thing yous guys have been talking about. if the answer to the above is no; the meetings that you guys have been saying should be happening should really be happening with the club director or the person that is in fact truly responsible for all the above list of things. dont forget the food chain: parents hired the club-club hired the coach- coach coaches the kids its like me holler'n at the fry guy because they got my order wrong. as customer i holler at the manager. the manger then hollers at the fry guy
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VbBEAR |
Hmmm.... | ||
ignoratevb wrote: ...the answers to the questions you ask are not only a "YES" but an empathic "YES". Very few clubs I've known or been associated with are provided any guidance from the Club Director. In those many instances, the club director found coaches, set the club fee, found gyms for practice, ordered gear, paid salaries, set up tournaments and collected money.As far as the individual teams within the club, while there may indeed of been some "broad-brushed" guidance, the selection of players, recruiting, tournaments selected, playing time, practice emphasis, etc. were solely the responsibility of the coach. Two instances to demonstrate: On out first year of volleyball I was quite impressed during the Open House presentation by the Club Director who preached trained coaches, consistency in methods, vigilant oversight and assured his involvement in every step of the operation. After that initial meeting we committed and never saw him again. That was followed our second year in the club where my player was taught elemental skills completely contrary to what the first coach had taught...in other words no consistency at the program level from one year to the next, or even one coach to the next. Understanding the pratfalls of "generalizations" know that the majority of clubs are little more than a collection of teams playing in the same uniforms under a club logo with the coach do his/her independent "thing". Again, a generalization... |
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jcoop |
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I agree, great post VB, my daughter has played club ball for three years and not once has a coach sit down with the parents and discussed anything. I feel
that the club directors should make a point of having their coaches sit down with the parents at least 2-3 times during the year and discuss the teams progress
or lack of. I'm with VB, I think this could help defuse any problems that any of the parents have with the teams play or chemistry and let the parents
know where he/she is trying to take the team
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Old Coach |
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Honestly, I see no need for a meeting. If a need arises, then we will have one. As a coach (and parent of a player) I have a parent meeting at the beginning of
every season. I outline every step of the way for them from expectations of team and parents to philosophy when it comes to playing time. We discuss how
practices are planned what my thoughts are so far as what kind of offense(s) and defense(s) we will run and we even discuss different scenarios so they
understand the reasons for changes if and when they occur. We have a team messageboard where I will, from time to time, post about recent practices or
tournaments and speak to everyone about what it is we are doing well and what it is we will concentrate our efforts on. I can count on one hand the amount of
times I have had to actually have a meeting with anyone regarding anything with the team. Yes, parents want some questions answered and every single time a
queston arises, they ask, I answer and that's that. Be organized, be honest, be open and follow through and there is little *need* to have formal meetings.
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olddblueeyes |
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Old Coach wrote: ..it sounds like you're a little farther along than many coaches. A couple of questions would be:
....what about the questions that do not arise, but that parents have during the season? Most parental problems are not the result of the questions that are asked, but by the one's that aren't, therefore are not addressed, as frustration builds. ...like the posting on the board but you have to admit that's pretty impersonal. I get grades from my players teacher but also want to know the person that is such a huge part and influence on her life. ...would it not be better to have questions answered in a group format to both simplify your life in having to answer the same question multiple times or, worse in the parents eyes, telling one something and not all? Maybe a better approach would be to ask the customer what a good communciation channel is at the beginning of the season?
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