http://www.usavolleyball.org/VolleyballNews/news.asp?id=2158
I don't see anyone from Junior Volleyball. To me, the Board looks very 'sports marketing' oriented.
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Torami |
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What does everyone think about the makeup of the new USAV Board of Directors, elected as part of the streamlining process initiated by the USOC?
http://www.usavolleyball.org/VolleyballNews/news.asp?id=2158 I don't see anyone from Junior Volleyball. To me, the Board looks very 'sports marketing' oriented. |
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Let's see....let's take our largest source of funds, and give them precisely 0 representation.
Look for juniors to be used as an unlimited pocket book......as usual. |
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Lets not just kill it, lets stomp on it, beat on it, and dismember it just to make sure its dead. They are thinking like a startup, focus on the image and the
marketing, except most startups are also obsessed with generating funding. Not so much here.
And upon further review and echoing JT's post, there is a juniors Elite person to be named as well as two region reps also.
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Ok...so I will be the first to fuel the fire....JVDA people might have something with what they are doing.....don't you think?????
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Way too much emphasis on the beach side of things.
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So, of the 12 announced, one is a collegiate coach, John Dunning, who has a distinct interest in the junior game.
Of the four to be announced, one will be a representatie of the junior community and two others will be regional commissioners. That's 1/4 of the board with an interest in the junior game. |
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Torami |
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I think the beach emphasis is part of a reaction that began awhile back, when the beach community started saying that, if USAV didn't really address beach,
USAV should not be the NGO for beach volleyball. Maybe they are swinging the pendulum a bit too far? Hey... perhaps that means a few years from now, probably
after the train has left the station, USAV will adopt a new approach to JOVC qualification? :-)
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Torami |
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I hear you JT, but as far as representation of the primary issues of concern for Junior Volleyball, there are really only the two Regional Directors. High
performance is pretty distinct from the rest of club activities, and involves a small percentage of the club population.
And of course, there is no path to be heard for us parents. At least here in Arizona, the regional government is of, by, and for the club directors. No parent representation. |
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Way to try and stretch it JT. In reality only one position with 100% full time interest in juniors. You can say they all have a distinct interest in the junior
game. The 12 to 18's will eventually be digested by the other interest groups once they become adults.
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VKorchnoi |
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As with our Pacific Northwest Region, the parents who pay the membership fees to the USAV don't get a vote into who is on the board of directors. Other
than a magazine and an electronic update I'm still trying to figure out exactly what my daughter gets in return for the dues I pay.
The problem remains that until there is an alternative, we are stuck with what we have. Let me know more about the JVDA. I think I'll as my friends at WAVA who are sending two teams to their event in June- then perhaps we can start a movement to join in the PACNW Region. |
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Phaedrus |
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1) USAV needed a new board, they had some god awful amount of people on the board, not sure exactly how many but every single constituency was represented, and
more. It was untenable, nothing got done because of paralysis by analysis.
2) USAV wasn't about to change their board until the USOC threatened them. 3) The 1992 Olympics was supposed to be the banner year for female sports soccer won gold, softball won gold, volleyball laid an egg. The only bright spot was beach volleyball. So the only monetary awards the USAV, as the NGO, was able to receive came from beach volleyball. Did USAV have a program to develop beach? Nope. Come Sydney, they had maybe a couple of people working with the AVP. Bottom line AVP threatened to certify themselves as the NGO for beach volleyball, taking the money away from the USAV because the AVP is the one spending the money to develop beach players. So now USAV loves beach, which is why the representation of all those beach people on the board and there is now a beach development program involving the AVP 4) No one has pointed out the representation of the mass media on this board. I am not sure that kind of expertise could help the USAV get the TV time that they so badly want. 5) The way the board is set up, juniors has only one voice out of 12 on the board. The regions have a direct interest but they have other fish to fry. USAV wants to institute a web based registration system. Great idea you say, its about time. Well, instead of going with a commercial grade software, they paid lots of money to get a "unique" software. Untested and performance unknown. Why go this way? Traditionally the regions collect the membership fees for the USAV and they send a fraction that fee to the USAV. With this web based software the membership fees goes straight to the USAV and then they will distribute the change to the region. Do you think the regions are happy? Why should you care? Because the regions do more grunt work than the USAV in registering members, processing paperwork, and run more tournaments than the USAV. remember that the qualifiers are all operated by other entities other than the USAV. The only tournament the USAV operates directly is JO's and adult nationals. THAT battle should be interesting. If the regions balk at changing the way the membership fees are split, juniors will have a hard time organizing itself without the regions. Remember that much of the region manpower are volunteers. 6) JVDA has a good idea. I like the way their mission reads, but I will reserve judgment until I can see how they react. So far the USAV has been somewhat arrogant in dealing with JVDA. Communications are more about dictating the terms of JVDA's surrender. |
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Torami |
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An insightful post, as usual, Phaedrus.
For better or worse, I believe the current split has increased the equilibrium of the 'market' as opposed to reducing it, and so it could become the status quo. JVDA has enough members to keep going if they don't really mess up, and USAV has not (yet) been significantly damaged. The question is: what could cause significant movement? JVDA members drop out of USAV? USAV upsets the regions so much more clubs jump ship and sign on board with JVDA? JVDA gets one or more of the big tournaments oustide of the JVDA stronghold to move over, and with it that area's clubs? One of the big questions, for me, is what JVDA does with their championship tournament next year. If they come up with a good qualification scenario, or maintain their "just sign up" approach, I'll be lobbying our club to go that direction: travel to what is fun and good competition, and attend the JVDA championship. I have little doubt that JVDA will be more responsive and innovative. JVDA is the 'startup'. USAV is the entrenched older business that has lost touch with its customers. I expect the startup to take away enough business that the entrenched business either reinvents itself or fades. Then many years from now, we will be discussing how JVDA has lost touch, and the new startup has it right :-) |
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Torami wrote: IMO, the JVDA did mess up big time with the invitational "scrimmage" that was held. I would look to see those clubs excluded not participate next year. It really wasn't a smart move for a group already pretty small to further fracture themselves, IMO. |
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