You do see the difference, don't you, between your analogies and the subject we are discussing? The correct score is not a matter of judgment, as all of your analogies are.
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fatman, if this were an IE vs. FM bout, it would have been stopped long ago. The ref would have stepped in and called a TKO as soon as he read your last post.
You do see the difference, don't you, between your analogies and the subject we are discussing? The correct score is not a matter of judgment, as all of your analogies are. |
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Whoa....so I lay on the mat, beaten and counting the lights.....big deal.
The initial post IS a matter of judgement....should people be allowed to, and if they are, should they yell "POINT, POINT, POINT" if they feel it's necessary? You say "yes" and I think that's wrong, I say "no" and you think that's wrong. Bout over....1 for EI, zero for FM.....but wait!!!! THE SCORE'S WRONG!!!!!! |
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Hahaha... great post, fatman. Outstanding.... got a good chuckle out of that ending.
Hey, by the way, just to clarify, I'm not saying that people "should" yell "POINT"... just that they're going to do it because fans in all sports are basically powerless to do otherwise, and that it's pointless to think you can change it. And if you don't believe me, try to post the wrong score at a basketball game or a football game some time as an experiment. |
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A great leyene indeed.
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expertidiot wrote:You don't think you're advocating that here? |
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"let them yell" is different than saying that they "should" yell. I don't blame people for yelling "SCORE" or
"POINT", and I certainly understand why any normal group of fans at a sporting event would do so when the incorrect score is posted.
So, yes, "let them yell" is my stance. What exactly would you propose as an alternative? Require fans everywhere not to yell about the score being wrong when the score is wrong?
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just a question | ||
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Are teams with shared playing teyeme philosophies concerned about a correct score?
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Torami |
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Is that rhetorical, Eye? Of course they are!
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30-28 that was the score of an 18's match that determined which team would go to JO's. A call got overturned about half way through and the one team
got their point, but the other team didn't get their point taken away. It could have made a huge difference in the match.
I think what was the worst thing about this match was that it was being reffed by 15's. 15's reffing 18's...ridiculous. By the time your daughter gets to her final year as an 18 year old, most of the shouting point and score is over, for the most part. The parents of the older kids just let it go, for the most part. But this match had missed calls all over the place by these younger girls and the frustration was really building. Remember, this game determined who was going to JO's and who was going home. It was a real shame that they were put in this position, but you really have to pay attention to what you are doing. The game was way too fast for the 15's to be reffing it. I can see both sides...poor little 15's, but hey, pay attention too. Missing that point was huge. |
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expertidiot wrote: As you said, fans are going to yell. And you tried to claim people weren't necessarily yelling at the kids, even though there's rarely (if ever)
more than 1/3 adults on the crew, so yes, when you're yelling, most often you're yelling at *children.* And it's one thing to yell at a paid work
crew, but if you feel good about yelling at a group of kids, rather than going through your coach, then that's pretty pathetic, IMO.
Get your coach involved. Get the work team's coach involved. Do not yell at the kids. Period. It's no better than yelling at a kid who's line judging and makes a call you disagree with. The right score isn't a judgment call, you say? Well, I've seen plenty of instances where the parents are FLAT OUT WRONG about the score being incorrect. So "the score is wrong" isn't necessarily always a fact. You want to coach from the stands? Coach your daughter's team from the stands (if your coach allows that). Don't coach mine. (For the record, I have never said that there should never be a concern raised if one legitimately thinks a score might be wrong. I am strictly saying I am 100% against parents yelling at kids for mistakes that are most often corrected on their own without "help" from the stands.)
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