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VBGuest |
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When, if ever, is it okay for a parent/spectator to yell out "point"/ "score" during a match? What do parents/specators do if they know the
score is wrong but they don't yell out? Is there any tactful way to handle this issue or should parents/spectators just let the score be wrong?
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Asst2theRM |
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As a coach, it is embarrasing to have my parents consistantly yell "score!" to the girls running the table. I would prefer if a parent walked up and
mentioned it to me or my ass't coach and let us handle it.
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Torami |
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There was a long thread on this. The rough consensus is -never- yell it out, even when you are sure you are right. If it persists for several points, do as
recommended and go around and let one of your coaches know.
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expertidiot |
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Torami wrote:This is just unrealistic, I think. By comparison, can you imagine what would happen in a college volleyball game if the score on the scoreboard was incorrect? Or a high school basketball game? How about a football game? Can't you just imagine what 50,000 people would be yelling in the stands? Why is volleyball any different? People are people - when they are watching an event and the wrong score is put up, they're going to start yelling. I say let 'em yell. Many times, it's the only way the scorers (and the referees) wake up. |
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olddblueeyes |
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...sounds like we have an answer so I won't belabor the points made with the exception of the following observation.
As both a parent and now retired coach, it is hard to understand and watch the lack of coordination and assigned responsbilities on a coaching team...assuming, as most teams do, more than one coach. During my years in coaching my assistant always had specific duties during a match, as well as, pre-game and post game. Critical ones to me during the match were making sure the subs got ready and up to the line on time; knowing the number of subs used; and to track every point and compare that to the table's posting. While they had other duties, those were key. I see way too many assistants just "lost in space" during matches, no clipboard, no assigned responsibilites and that is lack of direction and coordination by the head coach. |
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eweeyeewesee |
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expertidiot wrote:Because it's bad form to be yelling at a kid that's not your own? |
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Why are you assuming that they anyone is yelling at a kid? What if they're yelling "SCORE" at the adult R1 or R2... who is supposed to be
managing the scorer's table?
I'm just saying that this it is quite natural in any sport for the fans to quickly become vocal when the wrong score is put up for all to see. Volleyball is no different than football, basketball, etc. When the score's wrong, people are going to get vocal about it. |
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TxClubMom |
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I was always told the officials don't go by the 'score card' but rather the score sheet ....
But, it appears to me when the score card reads 25, the ref blows his whistle and the game is over. He doesn't first consult the score sheet to confirm the score card is correct. Nothing drives a parent more crazy than the score being wrong - this is harder to move past than a perceived 'bad call'. A call can be subjective based on your line of sight. The score card is black and white and missing a point is negligence. (ok, I know these are kids scoring). FYI - one time I approached the assist coach during a game, lightly tapped her on the shoulder so that I wouldn't be TOO much of a distraction, scared the bejeevies out of her. Usually there is someone around from the reffing team. I ask a reffing teammate to let her peers know to check the score. |
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trufle shuffle |
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I agree with "eweeyeewesse". You really shouldn't yell at kid that is not your own even if she is spacing out our texting when she should be
flipping the score. I've seen a lot of bad behavior by parents over the years in regard to this issue. A great deal of the time the flipper made a
mistake in the score and was corrected by the official scorekeeper. The parents don't know that and they are yelling about a score that is actually
correct.
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USAVRef |
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trufle shuffle wrote: Bingo. |
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expertidiot |
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I've personally been involved in many instances where the incorrect score stood. Look at the flipped score this way - it can be an early warning sign of an
error in the book. That often happens. If it's caught quickly, the error in the incorrect scorebook can be easily found and fixed. If it goes on too long,
it quite often stands.
Anyway, some of you are being unrealistic in my mind. No one should yell at a kid (who would really disagree with this?), but what on earth would a rational person expect would happen in ANY sport if the wrong score was put up for everyone to see? Is it wrong to yell "SCORE" to the referee? Does anyone really think you can expect fans in any sport not to get vocal when the posted score is wrong? |
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