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squirrelly4vb |
Frequency of injuries on college teams |
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Does anyone else think that collegiate players are injured at a higher rate than Junior players, even though Junior players play lots more matches? I have
been going to some spring matches of schools from the Big Ten, Big Twelve, and Big East, and every team has several players recovering from injuries. Not that
no one ever gets injured playing volleyball, but college players haven't played a match that counts since last November, and yet they are injured. Compare
that to Junior players that go through high school season, then go straight into JO practices, and by the first weekend in January they are playing
tournaments, and by this time of year they have played in 30 - 50 tournament matches. Since JO teams generally carry no more than 10 players, and usually
fewer than that, they cannot afford injuries, and they don't seem to have as many.
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MagicWarrior7 |
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Keep in mind that collegiate players are practicing much more often than JO players - 3-4 hours per day, 6 days a week in season, 5 days a week in the spring
season - in addition to weight training and conditioning. It's much more wear & tear on the body.
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vbforlife |
College injuries | ||
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I agree that collegiate players do play, practice, and train more than junior players, but does that mean they should be injured more? I've attended some
spring college matches and a few teams have 4 or more players out due to injuries/surgeries! Are coaches expecting too much from these girls? It just
doesn't seem that these young players should have so many injuries.
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relativeyoungster |
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I wonder how much of it is build-up....from juniors, where technique is NOT taught.
an example of this....its really, really easy to overbuild the muscles, and not build the counterbalancing muscles.....leading to overuse injuries once they get to college... |
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VBfan22 |
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The higher frequency of matches lost to injury in college has a lot of causes, many of which have already been mentioned.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that in college injuries are reported and managed and micro-managed. Most clubs don't have a trainer, and some club kids play thru aches and pains that may actually be real problems. A pretty conservative approach to injuries is usually taken in college. |
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vbmom2x |
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Another reason you see so many injuries in college comparatively goes hand in hand with the above comment regarding a higher level of care via a training
staff. Often players enter college with nagging injuries and rather than try to maintain a high level of performance trainers recommend getting the issue
resolved either through surgery or rest in the off-season so that the player can try to achieve 100% by the start of the next season. For example, a nagging
shoulder injury is often nursed along until season is over and then the training staff get pro-active to treat and recover in the off-season. These players
carry a monetary value to the school and getting them healthy is in everyone's best interest.
The other thing to consider is that these are no longer young girls who can abuse their bodies, heal fairly quickly and show little long term effect. These are women who are often required to push their bodies to the limit with almost daily requirements to perform on the court or in the weight room. The injuries are no surprise to me watching the difference. |
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squirrelly4vb |
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"push their bodies to the limit with almost daily requirements to perform on the court or in the weight room." Is it possible that there is too much
weight training?
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VB ALL 1 |
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A Serbian coach was surprised when we told him that we can play 3-6 matches in a day or 7-10 matches during a qualifier here in the States for our juniors
play. He said they only play 1 or 2 best 3 out of 5 matches during the week back in Europe.
Do we excessively play our teams to the point of being chronically being injured. I know that getting a bid can be a war of attrition as to which team can stand the most pain or exhaustion. |
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dilbertwasright |
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Spring season is also a different animal when it comes to treating injuries.
If a player is only slightly injured, a coach would be more likely to keep a player out than if they had that same injury in-season. Also, In college, players would be more likely to get "minor" surgeries on nagging injuries. Often these are things that a Junior player would play through, or just let heal. But in college, with the professional training staffs, these injuries would take surgery and rehab. |
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Asst2theRM |
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relativeyoungster wrote: I think this hits the nail on the head. 7 out of the 10 girls on our team play some form of winter sport/spring sport that works other muscles that may not be used in volleyball (they seem to be the less injured). A lot of them compete in softball also. By building the other muscles will help with strenthening ankles, knees, backs, abs, and shoulders. Another idea that I often wonder about it the use/overuse of Active Ankles. I think they are good for the sport, but I remember in high school basketball, even after I had sprained my ankle and it healed, I would want to keep wrap/brace on it to prevent injuring it again. We got a new trainer my junior year and he said my ankle would never heal to the proper strength unless I allow it to have a free range of motion. He was right, I would heal quicker and have better agility without the wrap/brace than with it. Also, by using the Active Ankles, the lack of mobility on the ankle would put more stress on the knee. Just a thought. |
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WIVBCRAZY |
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I agree with the active ankle theory. My daughter played VB and also did BB in high school. She has worn AA since she was 15 in VB but never used them in BB
and never needed them. I think it helped keep her ankles stronger but the AA served the purpose with all the feet under the net.
Both of my girls ended up injured, during college but both were freak things. I do see too many ACL injuries at all levels and it doesn't seem to really diminish at the college level. The unbalance of the quads and hams seems to be a significant factor as well as them learning to jump and land correctly. Girls especially don't like to do some of the lifts that are needed to keep everything balanced. The other thing is shoulders. They do sooooo many reps that I wonder the arms don't just fall off. Once there is an ache, pain, or injury, mechanics change naturally to alleviate the pain and this can cause more serious injury to the body part. And to comment on the junior circuit.... I really believe we are doing a disservice to our little ones, They are learning skills at a young age, pounding the ball at a young age, and really haven't developed the strength to do some of the things we expect of them. This is along the same lines as the young pitchers that throw too hard too young and are injured before they really ever get started. I understand they want to play the game the same way and it is hard to hold them back, and some of them are amazing in what they are able to do but I think we will continue to see a rise in injuries because of it.
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