Qualifiers make my kid sick

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TxClubMom	Qualifiers make my kid sick	Lead	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 100 (04/08/08 10:02 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None . . . and I mean literally. Her stamina during the tournament is great. She does not get sick or rundown DURING the tournament, but the day after we get get home . . . she could sleep for two days straight. 1. she loses her voice for at least week after (yes she is a loud one on the court). 2. her eyes get red and weepy, so much so we take out her contacts for a week after. The optometrist said that may be from the 'dirty recycled plane air'. 3. but the worst is missing yet another day of school because she feels 'dizzy, stomach ache, headache' etc. No fever, just general run down. We did make sure she got plenty of SLEEP during the Baltimore qualifier. I also harp on fluids (goes in one ear and out the other). I know it is not lack of food or nutrition. Even with all these precautions (nutrition, fluids, sleep) she still came home from school early today because she was not feeling well. She slept a couple additional hours, and even passed up 'boyfriend-of-the-month chat time' to go to bed early. This does not happen at the regular, local, two-day tournaments. Any magic tricks to stay well while traveling and playing hard?
vbmom2x	Adrenaline crash?	#1	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 221 (04/08/08 11:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sounds like maybe this is your daughter's way of re-energizing her body after several days of expending extraordinarily high adrenaline. I would expect qualifiers to be different than a normal tournament since more is on the line and it sounds like your daughter is a tough competitor. She might be using everything she has, kind of like the flight response. You can only do that for so long before you have used up everything that is there and you simply need to recharge. One of my daughters exhibited such "crashing" behavior for several years by throwing up - generally in the middle of an event that had been in planning stages for weeks or months. We finally learned that she wasn't sick, but rather over-wound, and once she got sick, she was fine. Thank goodness, she outgrew it. The body is an interesting machine and she will need to learn to listen to hers to help manage these weekends.
kiserrick	Volleyball Hangover!	#2	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 78 (04/09/08 9:50 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I used to call it Volleyball Hangover when I played. The day after a big tournament is such a let down BUT the day after the day after for me was the worst! Soreness, lack of energy and just not wanting to do anything. Lots or fluids to keep from dehydrating...I recommend a short workout to get the blood flowing again.
loganpkbt	vb hangover!	#3	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 585 (04/09/08 11:27 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Love that term and I am going to steal it. I think you are getting some good advice. The one thing I would add from the schhol nurse and Mom perspective. Nip the coming home early from school not feeling well post a big out of towner in the bud. Not saying that she is not tired worn down and vb-hungover but unless she is truely ill and contageous she goes to school. More missed time will only add make up work and stress in the end.
Madcow		#4	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 21 (04/09/08 11:33 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	As a Speech Language Pathologist, I would be concerned about your daughter losing her voice consistently and for long periods; a week is a really long time to lose one's voice. Vocal abuse (using a loud voice constantly) can lead to vocal nodules or polyps (growths on the vocal cords that negatively impact one's voice.) Vocal rest (no talking - only whispering,) lots of water, sufficient sleep, and cutting out caffeine can help in the short term. An ENT, otolaryngologist, can examine the vocal cords to determine their health and make recommendations regarding therapy.
volleysisters		#5	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 54 (04/09/08 4:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Volleysisters House Rules after tournaments " If you're not burnin' up or throwin' up, you're showin' up. "(for school) That doesn't mean she isn't nearly comatose after school for a few days. Price to pay for reaching for her dreams. My dd is exhausted after the three-day qualifiers. Loved that Colorado Crossroads overlapped into spring break for us after the 13 games we played on Sunday. She leaves it all on the court too, but this six week period every spring has a lot packed into school too. Just being there Monday makes her better organized to cope. But it's her job to try and mine to deny. We'll see how she holds up after Socal this weekend. If anyone has any mommy magic, please pass it on.
cruncher	hangover	#6	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 271 (04/09/08 6:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	loganpkbt wrote: Love that term and I am going to steal it. I think you are getting some good advice. The one thing I would add from the schhol nurse and Mom perspective. Nip the coming home early from school not feeling well post a big out of towner in the bud. Not saying that she is not tired worn down and vb-hungover but unless she is truely ill and contageous she goes to school. More missed time will only add make up work and stress in the end. You are so right, my Harry-Potter-loving friend. Sucking it up for a day on the front end means lots of bad days avoided on the back end.
TxClubMom	THANKS	#7	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 100 (04/09/08 10:17 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thank you so much for the responses. I was educated and entertained. I already shared the Volleysister's house rules with the mom's at practice tonight. (" If you're not burnin' up or throwin' up, you're showin' up.") We were all concerned with our girls catching up school work after missing two days last week for Baltimore and another day this week for LoneStar. I wasn't the only mom having to push my daughter out the door so they didn't have the additional stress of falling further behind. And I had NO idea she could be doing permanent damage to her vocal cords. Vocal abuse is a new term for me. I thought vocal nodules or polyps was related to something more serious than straining your voice. I passed that tidbit to a dad that lost HIS voice cheering. (Aren't I a know-it-all now?) I know I have suffered from Volleyball Hangover after three days in a convention center, and I never touched the court except to shag! I think for her adrenaline crash hits the nail on the head. "But it's her job to try and mine to deny." So from now on, I am hanging tough when she wants to sleep late or come home early. She can suck it up and play through minor pain, so surely she can suck it up to sit in a class. Sincerely, thanks! Mother's know best.
Madcow		#8	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 21 (04/14/08 11:55 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Vocal nodules are like calluses, polyps are like blisters. They can form on the vocal cords from the over exertion caused by using a loud voice constantly. When we speak our vocal cords vibrate and contact each other; the more force we use to speak, the harder they contact. When nodules form, it often results in a consistently hoarse voice because the vocal cords aren't able to come into even contact. The bump of the nodule prevents the vocal cords from contacting each other evenly and air escapes in an uneven flow resulting in the hoarse vocal quality. Athletes, teachers, singers, cheerleaders, coaches, public speakers, and others who speak loudly and often are at risk for harming their voice. http://www.uiowa.edu/~shcvoice/ is a good web resource for info on how vocal abuse affects people. It's geared towards teachers, but the information is valid for everyone. Do the other kids on the team get sick as well? I try to get my team to wash their hands often at tournaments because they are constantly coming into contact with others' germs when they touch the ball. I don't know how easy it is to catch something this way, but a lot of healthcare professionals recommend washing your hands often to reduce the chance of catching something. I hope your daughter feels better after the next qualifier!!
volleysisters	Any VB hangovers Monday?	#9	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 54 (04/15/08 3:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I know I felt like I had been hit by a truck. When we left the ASC in Anaheim the outside temp was 98 degrees. Add dehydration to the list. DD moaned and rolled over Monday morning but I beat a quick path out of the room before she could request a late show up for school. When it was time to go, she rolled out in her tournament shirt and sweats, but she did roll into school ontime.
bluknight		#10	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 655 (04/15/08 3:41 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mad Cow: I would add anybody in the Military to that list. It took a good 2.5 days to figure how to be loud w/o straining your vocal cords. It's gotta come from the gut! The website is great.
welshwind	Whispering	#11	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 92 (04/15/08 3:53 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Madcow - I not challenging your knowledge. Just looking for some clarification. You indicated that whispering is preferred to talking. My daughter saw Dr. Bastion (sp?) here in the Chicago area. He is the preferred vocal doctor (not the right word) for members of the Chicago Lyric Opera. The only reason we were even able to get an appointment with him was through contacts. Anway, he told my daughter and my wife (I wasn't there) that whispering was a no-no as well. That it was also very hard on the voice. At least, that is what my wife reported. I'm interested in your thoughts as that seemed counter to what I would have expected.
TxClubMom	Volleyball Hangover	#12	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 100 (04/15/08 4:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	We had no volleyball hangover's this Monday! We returned from Lonestar on Sunday. It was a 5ish hour trip by car. She did nap on the way home and went to bed early, but no begging off or coming home from school early. I wonder if the plane travel is the culprit? We consistently used hand sanitizer. WalMart have some 3 oz containers under $2 that clip onto her volleyball bag. She and the team help themselves after each match. Our daughter, her dad and two others reported no voice this week! We had some major wins on Saturday and Sunday. The whole place seemed to be lit up - or was it just my imagination? lol I will pass on the website. Thanks madcow for the information. I can visualize blisters, and now it makes sense.
volleysisters	Monday Morning breakthrough	#13	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 54 (04/28/08 12:40 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	This morning I am the proud mama of Little Volleysister that I just had to share. We have made huge progress. Up and out to school on time without any moaning or whining. This is in spite of the facts. We left Reno @ 7:15 last night after a grueling Sunday schedule that included 2-25 point playoffs and a 3-game final match. Got home at 12:30AM Little Sis has been playing with two fractured ribs for the past 3 weeks with doctor's permission (fractures are intact) but is very sore and tired. She knew Socal and Far Westerns would be so important to her team mates she sucked it up and covered it as well as she could. Finishing this semester with the grades she would like to have has hit home, so she dragged fanny out this morning to turned in the assignments she missed last week. Volleysistermama sees hero power in little sis today. One tough little volleysister. I am so proud of her detirmination.
TxClubMom	Wow Volleysisters!	#14	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 100 (04/28/08 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	You are truly a Pro at this!!!
Madcow	whispering	#15	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 21 (04/29/08 4:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Welshwind, Thanks for pointing that out to me. After doing a little research into some journals of SLP on the web, it seems that there is some question as to the efficacy of whispering as a form of vocal rest. The research of which I was previously aware suggested that it was beneficial, however, there is some research that suggests that it may be harmful, as well. I would have to agree with the good doctor since it's better safe than sorry, and recommend against it now, since it is uncertain whether or not whispering will negatively impact the vocal folds' health. "Although whispering involves more severe hyperfunction in most patients, it does not seem to do so in all patients. In some patients, it may be less traumatic than normal voice." From: Laryngeal Hyperfunction During Whispering: Reality or Myth? . Journal of Voice , Volume 20 , Issue 1 , Pages 121 - 127 A . Rubin , V . Praneetvatakul , S . Gherson , C . Moyer , R . Sataloff "Laryngeal functioning during the production of whispered speech is not well understood. The efficacy of whispering as a means of voice rest is a common clinical concern that is unresolved. This investigation examined vocal-fold configuration, glottal size, and airway constriction by supraglottal structures during whispering." "However, for each dependent variable, individual subject differences tended to be considerably larger than any systematic effects due to whisper type or vowel." From: Journal of Speech and Hearing Research Vol.32 161-174 March 1989. © American Speech-Language-Hearing Association Laryngeal Configuration and Constriction during Two Types of Whispering Nancy Pearl Solomon, Gerald N. McCall , Michael W. Trosset , William C. Gray